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		<title>By: Guy Harris</title>
		<link>http://recoveringengineer.com/reflections/why-i-dont-want-to-be-a-tolerant-person/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for engaging in dialogue. 

I think I see your point about steak vs pork chop. Many people would say that steak is superior to pork chops, and I would add this observation: Steak is not superior to the person who prefers pork chops.

Here&#039;s what I mean, by definition, superior, inferior, better, and worse are all comparative rather than absolute statements. Until two people agree on the objective, measurable standards they will use to judge the quality of an idea or thing, determinations of superior and inferior are merely statements of personal preference. And, in the arena of personal preference, we can disagree without either of us being right or wrong, superior or inferior.

While it is true that someone can be mistaken about objective facts, they can never be mistaken when they state their perspective. Their perspective might be based on bad data, poor assumptions, incorrect logic, or any number of other challenges, and still, when they say that it is their perspective, it is, in fact, their perspective.

If you have no need to communicate with another person (the pork chop in your example), then you would have no need to understand their perspective. If, however, you want to connect and communicate with them, it might help to understand their perspective so that you can better frame your communication in a way that makes sense to them. It is a matter of choice based on your personal goals and desires.

With regard to craving social contacts but disliking people, I have this offer: reframe your thinking about people.

My example (below) might not apply to you. I only offer it to further explain my meaning. 

I prefer to be alone. It is the most comfortable place for me. Interacting with, working with, and being around people exhausts me. 

These are statements of fact. 

What I do with these facts then impacts how I develop social contacts. I can choose to look at people as objects that drain my energy or I can look at people as people who have wants, needs, and desires equal to my own.

If I use the first &quot;frame&quot; to think about people, I begin to dislike them because they negatively impact me and my desires.

If I use the second &quot;frame,&quot; I can find positive ways to work with people even though it takes energy.

For more specifics on this concept, I recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576759776/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=princdrivecon-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1576759776&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Leadership and Self-deception&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by the Arbinger Institute.

Does that help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for engaging in dialogue. </p>
<p>I think I see your point about steak vs pork chop. Many people would say that steak is superior to pork chops, and I would add this observation: Steak is not superior to the person who prefers pork chops.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I mean, by definition, superior, inferior, better, and worse are all comparative rather than absolute statements. Until two people agree on the objective, measurable standards they will use to judge the quality of an idea or thing, determinations of superior and inferior are merely statements of personal preference. And, in the arena of personal preference, we can disagree without either of us being right or wrong, superior or inferior.</p>
<p>While it is true that someone can be mistaken about objective facts, they can never be mistaken when they state their perspective. Their perspective might be based on bad data, poor assumptions, incorrect logic, or any number of other challenges, and still, when they say that it is their perspective, it is, in fact, their perspective.</p>
<p>If you have no need to communicate with another person (the pork chop in your example), then you would have no need to understand their perspective. If, however, you want to connect and communicate with them, it might help to understand their perspective so that you can better frame your communication in a way that makes sense to them. It is a matter of choice based on your personal goals and desires.</p>
<p>With regard to craving social contacts but disliking people, I have this offer: reframe your thinking about people.</p>
<p>My example (below) might not apply to you. I only offer it to further explain my meaning. </p>
<p>I prefer to be alone. It is the most comfortable place for me. Interacting with, working with, and being around people exhausts me. </p>
<p>These are statements of fact. </p>
<p>What I do with these facts then impacts how I develop social contacts. I can choose to look at people as objects that drain my energy or I can look at people as people who have wants, needs, and desires equal to my own.</p>
<p>If I use the first &#8220;frame&#8221; to think about people, I begin to dislike them because they negatively impact me and my desires.</p>
<p>If I use the second &#8220;frame,&#8221; I can find positive ways to work with people even though it takes energy.</p>
<p>For more specifics on this concept, I recommend <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576759776/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=princdrivecon-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1576759776" rel="nofollow"><em>Leadership and Self-deception</em></a> by the Arbinger Institute.</p>
<p>Does that help?</p>
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		<title>By: Jindra Hrdlicka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jindra Hrdlicka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for answering, Sir.
I used superior not as a Nazi sense, but more like quality. The sirloin steak is superior to pork chop.
And I see no benefit in trying to understand &quot;pork chop&quot;. In addition, I have seen so many good &quot;understanding&quot; steaks turning into pork chops, but rarely the other way around. They are doomed by DNA.

It is interesting that I am, like you against tolerance but for totally different reason.
You see it as being superior.
Every time I hear, &quot;look at me how tolerant am I&quot; my answer is simple. &quot; It is more your rubber spine.....&quot;

But I need your advice on something.

After reading about you, there may be an answer :)

What to do when one craves social contacts but dislikes people ?

recoveringteacher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for answering, Sir.<br />
I used superior not as a Nazi sense, but more like quality. The sirloin steak is superior to pork chop.<br />
And I see no benefit in trying to understand &#8220;pork chop&#8221;. In addition, I have seen so many good &#8220;understanding&#8221; steaks turning into pork chops, but rarely the other way around. They are doomed by DNA.</p>
<p>It is interesting that I am, like you against tolerance but for totally different reason.<br />
You see it as being superior.<br />
Every time I hear, &#8220;look at me how tolerant am I&#8221; my answer is simple. &#8221; It is more your rubber spine&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>But I need your advice on something.</p>
<p>After reading about you, there may be an answer <img src='http://recoveringengineer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What to do when one craves social contacts but dislikes people ?</p>
<p>recoveringteacher</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer is not quite so simple as the question, and I think it would take a conversation rather than a brief written dialogue to adequately address it.

That said. Here are some brief, albeit incomplete, thoughts

The simplest answer to why you should try to understand their perspective is this: You should try to understand the &quot;idiot&#039;s&quot; perception if you want to communicate with them. 

If your goal is to maintain the &quot;superior&quot; position, then I suppose you wouldn&#039;t care to communicate with the person. So, you wouldn&#039;t need to understand their perspective.

If every relationship was a one-off transaction with no lasting consequences, then I could blithely go through life presuming that I was superior to everyone with whom I had a disagreement.

As a practical matter, in a world where I need to work with others over relatively long periods of time, I&#039;m not comfortable with the presumption or assumption that I am superior to them in any way.

If I hold information they do not have, then I simply know something that they don&#039;t know. It does not make me superior to them.

If, by chance, my mental capacity is greater than theirs, I have an obligation to help them rather than to criticize them. (This is my perspective. It is based on my world-view and personal values.)

You are free to disagree with me. I don&#039;t take it personally, and I don&#039;t think it makes you inferior to me. (I&#039;m also not willing to accept an inferior status to you.)

I am interested in understanding more about your perspective. For example, assuming you are working to communicate with someone, why wouldn&#039;t you want to understand their perspective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is not quite so simple as the question, and I think it would take a conversation rather than a brief written dialogue to adequately address it.</p>
<p>That said. Here are some brief, albeit incomplete, thoughts</p>
<p>The simplest answer to why you should try to understand their perspective is this: You should try to understand the &#8220;idiot&#8217;s&#8221; perception if you want to communicate with them. </p>
<p>If your goal is to maintain the &#8220;superior&#8221; position, then I suppose you wouldn&#8217;t care to communicate with the person. So, you wouldn&#8217;t need to understand their perspective.</p>
<p>If every relationship was a one-off transaction with no lasting consequences, then I could blithely go through life presuming that I was superior to everyone with whom I had a disagreement.</p>
<p>As a practical matter, in a world where I need to work with others over relatively long periods of time, I&#8217;m not comfortable with the presumption or assumption that I am superior to them in any way.</p>
<p>If I hold information they do not have, then I simply know something that they don&#8217;t know. It does not make me superior to them.</p>
<p>If, by chance, my mental capacity is greater than theirs, I have an obligation to help them rather than to criticize them. (This is my perspective. It is based on my world-view and personal values.)</p>
<p>You are free to disagree with me. I don&#8217;t take it personally, and I don&#8217;t think it makes you inferior to me. (I&#8217;m also not willing to accept an inferior status to you.)</p>
<p>I am interested in understanding more about your perspective. For example, assuming you are working to communicate with someone, why wouldn&#8217;t you want to understand their perspective?</p>
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		<title>By: Jindra Hrdlicka</title>
		<link>http://recoveringengineer.com/reflections/why-i-dont-want-to-be-a-tolerant-person/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Jindra Hrdlicka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An idiot and the smart man are looking at the same tree.
But they don&#039;t see the same thing.

Why should I try to understand the idiot&#039;s perception ?

And what is wrong with superior position ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idiot and the smart man are looking at the same tree.<br />
But they don&#8217;t see the same thing.</p>
<p>Why should I try to understand the idiot&#8217;s perception ?</p>
<p>And what is wrong with superior position ?</p>
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		<title>By: Accept Differences &#124; Guy Harris: The Recovering Engineer</title>
		<link>http://recoveringengineer.com/reflections/why-i-dont-want-to-be-a-tolerant-person/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Accept Differences &#124; Guy Harris: The Recovering Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By accept differences, I do not mean tolerance. I have already written about why I don&#8217;t want to be a tolerant person. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By accept differences, I do not mean tolerance. I have already written about why I don&#8217;t want to be a tolerant person. [...]</p>
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